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In this issue

→ The $30 template library that outsold the course it used to be

→ The two prices Diane's coaches gave her for the same program

→ What a $2,500 solo email actually sent back

→ The 31-day event that finished 15 days early

→ The $10,000 course that felt like a failure next to a $40,000 month

→ The Back Room keeps all five panels, and Thursday we build your Q4 plan live

This Week's Deep Dive

What Five Days of Closed Door Talks Came Down To

One takeaway per panel, with the numbers the panelists shared.

Closed Door Talks wrapped on Friday. Five panels in five days, and here's the one thing from each room I keep coming back to.

Monday, The Flops Panel. Braden had a course on contracts that sold about one copy a month. He repackaged the same material as a $30 template library, and it did 200 sales in the first month and has now made almost $200,000. Same knowledge, different container.

Caryn's flop was the opposite kind. She's been coaching for 17-plus years, and her data is blunt: a 26-person retreat turned 13 of those people into clients within 18 months, and an 11-person in-person event sold every single attendee into the upsell. Her biggest flop, the one she says has cost her six figures, is not doing more of that — getting caught up in things that could work instead of the thing she knows does.

I've lived that one. On the HobbyScool side we went after the corporate wellness market for a while — big corporate sponsors, the whole pitch. And it's not that it didn't work. It worked a little. But the sales cycle was long, the right people were hard to find, it meant cold outreach, and it was eating time and energy while the summits that were already working sat there waiting for more of my attention. I finally looked at it and said this isn't working the way it needs to, and doubled down on what was.

Tuesday, The Offer Evolution Panel. When Diane launched her academy, one coach looked at everything in it and told her the minimum was $3,000 and it should be more. Another coach told her artists won't pay more than $997 no matter what it is. It was her first launch, so she went the cheap way — and she's been raising the price ever since, and she'll keep raising it until it's where it should be. Her test was simple: you can put any price on it, but the price is real when people actually pay it, and every launch where they do buys you the confidence to raise it again.

Wednesday, The List & Email Panel. Amira paid $2,500 for one solo email and it sent the buyer around 600 leads, which gives you a real number to hold your own paid placements against. And Nadalie said her JV webinars have grown her list faster than hosting an entire summit.

Thursday, The AI Operator Panel. Monica ran a 31-day event where a new product dropped every 24 hours, and she finished 15 days ahead of schedule. The year before, the 21-day version of that same event burned her out. What changed is that she built a separate skill for every step instead of one big workflow that did everything.

The other thing that came up all hour was keeping your AI's memory outside of any one platform. If everything it knows about your business lives inside one tool, you start over the day that tool changes its pricing or you decide to switch.

Friday, The Business Model Panel. Kate made $10,000 on her first course and got on a call with her coach devastated about it, because she was comparing herself to someone she'd built up in her head from watching social media. Her coach asked what the agency was doing monthly. It was $40,000 to $50,000. That's when she started muting people, and that's when the business started growing.

That panel also took on the courses are dead thing, and nobody in the room agreed with it. Elise's point was that buyers got burned by weak programs, and Claire lowered the price on her course this year and had her best sale yet.

Every one of these conversations is in the private podcast feed right now if you registered, and the free feed closes Monday, August 31. The Back Room is how you keep them. It's $47, everything stays yours for good, and this Thursday at noon Eastern we take what came out of these five rooms and build your last-quarter plan together, live.

Before You Go

See you Thursday at noon,
Destini